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Kate has returned to BB cream and Doree has a self-care doctor day. Then they?re joined by actor/writer/director Lennon Parham, who talks about growing up as ?a weirdo,? her undying love of the Indigo Girls, learning to put herself first(ish), and caring for her aging parents as an only child. 

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Kate and Doree dig into finding community IRL through game nights. Then, they hear from a new parent who feels shamed for getting sleep, discuss the looming changes in recommendation culture, and debate when you should wash your face after work.

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Doree has another great en-Doree-sment of a nail product and Kate is stoked to try it. Then, they talk with multi-hyphenate Franchesca Ramsey (you might know her as @Chescaleigh) about the beauty of a good foot rub, the social media app you shouldn?t sleep on, the way her online presence has changed over the years, and feeling the most like herself at forty.

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This is the tale of a family business becoming the fast food in fashion, and of provocative and very shocking ads. This is Benetton! Doree details to Kate the rise of the Benetton rugby shirt, how the brand became ubiquitous in the 80?s, and the Italian infrastructure their money is in today. 

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Dor & Kat wonder at the lack of comfort in American bathrooms and discuss solo podcasting, making important doctor?s appointments, and how technology sometimes makes things more annoying. 

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Doree is dealing with a serious sinus infection, while Kate is being influenced by her teen kid. Then, author and podcaster Jo Piazza joins them to chat about her new book The Sicilian Inheritance, the real-life murder mystery in her family that inspired the novel, the strange but exhilarating world of cold plunges, and falling down the rabbit hole of trad wives.

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Dor and Kat dig a little deeper into how important walks are for dogs' mental health, and then they discuss Kate's saved report cards and other papers from her childhood, Doree's terrible 5th grade teacher's latest business venture, and how it all kinda comes full circle. 

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Kate and Doree start a private detective agency and deal with a sinus infection and tennis elbow. Then, they chat about the friends who come and go over a short period of time, joining a classics book club, and moving past a long-term breakup. 

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This episode of The OC has so. many. plotlines! Summer and Seth remodel Marissa?s room, Jimmy and Sandy lose their liquor license the night of their restaurant opening, Luke announces he?s moving to Portland (but not before he gets in a major car accident!), and Cal proposes to Julie which throws nepo baby Kirsten for a loop. Plus, Kate and Doree discuss Seth?s sudden amazing artistic abilities, Cal being his usual monster-self and blackmailing Marissa, Luke?s wild behavior in this (and really every) episode, and how Jimmy somehow never notices two teens renovating a room in his condo. 

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Kat catches a cold and Dor has THOUGHTS on the royal picture scandal. Plus, they casually chat about the urge to buy things to be more minimalist, being out of the social media loop, grabbing that Trader Joe's kimbap, and finding the perfect carry-on. 

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Doree and Kate chat about the viral Trader Joe?s tote bag (among other viral TJ?s products). Then they hear from a listener about short-term friends with a long-term presence, another listener inadvertently life coaches Kat & Dor, and they discuss their the must-do?s when visiting Los Angeles.

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Kate tries a new skincare tool and Doree realizes she?s begun wearing shoes that are way too small. Then, author extraordinaire Sara Shepard (Pretty Little Liars, The Lying Game) joins them to chat about identifying as a ?daytime person? and being an afternoon bather, keeping her career spicy through her prolific writing, and how mom communities and desert memories led to the writing of latest book Nowhere Like Home. 

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The self-referential meta episode of The OC has arrived. Summer stumbles upon an actor from her favorite show The Valley and manages to get the Newport gang all invited to a party at a club in LA. Between the party and the parents enjoying a restaurant meeting with meatloaf, psychoanalyzing Ryan?s need to save everyone, Paris Hilton?s cameo, Aunt Hailey?s secret career reveal, and Luke dramatically declaring he?s done sleeping with Julie Cooper within earshot of Marissa, Kate and Doree have a looooot to talk about. 

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Kate and Doree discuss following the lives of semi-strangers online for years, and then hear from listeners about feeling at home in your postpartum body, dealing with friends and infertility, and how to keep your cool when you're keeping it child-free. 

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The Sephora Teens have influenced Kate into researching the brand Drunk Elephant. She tells Doree all about the 6-degrees of "The Rachel," the origin story of the founder Tiffany Masterson and her Pretty Woman moment, the scandal of their vitamin C serum, and the growing tween phenomenon of the Skin Smoothie. 

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Kate and Doree chat about the trials and tribulations of warts, skin tags, and revisiting old hairstyles.  Then, they talk to comedian/writer/performer Mélia Mills about creating a hit musical while also juggling parenthood, her philosophy about the many jobs she?s had, and maintaining confidence as a creative. 

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The drama is drama-ing in episode 21 of The OC because Anna is leaving and Seth feels bad about it, Theresa is staying and Ryan feels confused about it, and the affair between Julie and Luke continues. Kate and Doree discuss Cal?s party where the teens and the adults all mix like the totally normal grown-up parties that all of us go to, Eddie possibly being the new Oliver, the fights that inevitably happen at Newport parties and, perhaps most titillatingly, which member of The OC is good in bed.

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Kate prepares for a haircut and Doree gets lucky in a buy-nothing group before they hear from listeners about super drying skin conditions, worrying about not fitting in at a fancy hotel, and the promise of a reunion romance trope.

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Kate and Doree get into the Cerave ad with Michael Cera, Kate's Boston accent fetish, regional foods and drinks that somehow end up a part of your identity, and celebrities named JoJo. 

[Please note: we recorded this before this article on JoJo Siwa came out. It's not great!]

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Kate gets a facial and Doree shares her current bedtime wind-down. Then, they invite Emily Farris on to chat about her new book (I?ll Just Be Five More Minutes: And Other Tales from My ADHD Brain), navigating an ADHD diagnosis as an adult, divorce as a form of self-care, and how she developed her signature red lip.

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Let?s talk about the hair dryer! Doree tells Kate about how it started as a metal contraption you could connect to your vacuum or your gas stove pipe(!!) and evolved into the hand held hair dryer you know today. They also discuss the utility companies? hand in this tools rise in popularity, how ?the bob? played a part in the development of this tool, and why the technology of the bonnet dryer is making a comeback. It?s a boom of blowing technology!

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Kate and Doree talk about the Sephora teen panic and Stanley Cup craze, easy moisturizer recommendations, 5-minute makeup routines, and a listener's experience with a facial that caused a breakout. Plus: they have a new conspiracy theory about skincare containers!

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Dor & Kat chat about aging, Kate's time working for Oprah, how Doree met her husband, the nostalgia of the internet, and Doree's curiosity about her upcoming college reunion.  

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Kate learns something new about her body and Doree has a tire tale to tell. Then, they hear from listeners about the best way to switch bags easily, the tastiest oatmeal toppings, nice ways to ease into your early mornings, and the way listeners feel about ?The Rachel? cut for Kate. 

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Kate and Doree are waving alllll the red flags to almost everything Oliver does in this episode. He is cuh-reepy and, for some reason, no one sees it except Ryan and Luke. They also discuss how Seth and Anna?s relationship has gotten to be peak cringe, the surprise of Ryan and Luke teaming up to find dirt on Oliver, and the ?ugh? scene both Kate and Doree could barely watch. This episode is wild!

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This casual chat is full of gems! It starts with a convo about lab grown diamonds, a bit of chit chat about cursive and word processors and more in the middle, and wraps up with some Jason Kelce appreciation.

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Kate and Doree talk to Kate Kennedy (Be There in Five Podcast, One in a Millennial) about the significance of Millennials and the generation?s defining pop culture moments, online communities providing a sense of belonging, past and current obsessions that bring us joy and entertainment, and the importance of providing access to maternal and reproductive healthcare.

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Kate and Doree take a quiz to find out which OC characters they are before Oliver keeps Olivering, now with the added benefit of transferring to the same school as the rest of the gang. There?s also a very cringe new guy in town who happens to be Summer?s boyfriend, Ryan plays detective to Oliver?s suspicious stories and letters, and Julie tries a new career. And, Anna and Seth?s relationship continues to be weird! 

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Kate has a bonkers idea she shares with Doree that she?s been keeping a mystery! Then, they hear from listeners about their updated 5 minute makeup routines and the teens who can?t get enough of the Drunk Elephant ~aesthetic~, and try to help out a listener who is in a real pickle with their work organization.

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You know episode 16 of The OC is gonna be good when it STARTS with a barge-in! It?s the same plot devices, another episode though, and we have a trip to Palm Springs, a love triangle, and Summer making a ruckus. Kate and Doree wonder about who plays Jenga on a bed, Oliver?s wild and unruly behavior, Seth?s weird old man bit, and the parade of people holding red flags.

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Doree has a new prod she?s loving and Kate can?t wait to hear all the updates. Then, longtime dream guest Felicia Day joins them to talk about video games as self care, not giving up on the stories that matter to you, her fave sunscreen, and growing up with a plastic surgeon dad.

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Kate dives deep on the origins of the brand Clinique, how its dermatologist-developed products changed skincare forever, and how its products have found a new audience in Gen Z. 

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Kate and Doree wonder about the younger generation?s obsession with Drunk Elephant, and plan to do yoga in the new year. Then, they hear from listeners about an amazing Vaseline product, the ultimate scrunchie hack, and how to navigate a changing friendship.

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Hi Babies! We're taking a little break, but we've put together some clips of our favorite, fun, and interesting self-care routines that our guests have had over the years.

Please enjoy this "best of" episode and have a restful rest of your year!

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Kate and Doree reflect on their highlights from 2023, from parenting wins and social media breaks to doing ?the work? in therapy. 

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What *isn't* happening in Newport Beach these days? This episode?s troublemakers are Kirsten?s sister Hailey, who is quickly outstaying her welcome at the Cohens?; and Oliver, Marissa?s friend who takes everyone to a Rooney concert. Between it all, Kate and Doree discuss how everyone else is inadvertently keeping Sandy and Kirsten from boning, Luke?s complete change in personality, and the joys of a basic cable TV show marathon.

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On this third to last Friday of the year, Dor & Kat casually chat about their sliding doors theory of friendship, emotionally (and digitally) haunting your own childhood home, and the prevalence of modeling schools for tween girls at the turn of the century. 

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Kate?s kids call her "cringe," and Doree dances up a Broadway storm. Then, all their podcast parasocial relationships merge when Becca Freeman, host of Bad On Paper and author of The Christmas Orphans Club, joins to talk about the healing power of an outdoor walk, the joy of putting everything you've got into creative projects, and allllll the romcom book recommendations your heart can handle. Plus: hair prods!

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It's New Year's Eve in The OC and things take a turn for the chaos. Sandy and Kirsten go to a swingers party, Ryan worries about his relationship with Marrisa, and Kirsten has a sister that really shows up with a bang. Kate and Doree talk about the game of swinger chicken Sandy and Kirsten play with each other, how it was easier to be incommunicado when someone was abroad in the 90?s and 00?s, the insanity of a last minute New Year?s Eve reservation in Newport Beach, and the absurdity of how quickly a TV house party becomes a rager.

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Kate?s got a new novel coming out in June (pre-order One Last Summer now!), and Doree?s donning her doctor hat to uncover another medical mystery. Then, Dear Prudence advice columnist Jenée Desmond-Harris joins the pod to answer listener questions and discuss the delicate nuance of giving advice, the joy of laying on the floor in front of a space heater, and a mind-blowingingly good (and cheap!) foundation.

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Doree reminds Kate of a time, just 25 years ago, when the options for buying beauty products were basically limited to the drugstore or department stores. Then, the very French, very chic Sephora we know and love came to the States. Doree and Kate discuss the surprising consumer hesitation of standalone beauty stores in the US, the brand?s massive growth during the 2008 recession, and the origins of the famous backlit black-and-white shelves.

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Kate is being targeted with ?anti-aging? skincare ads and Doree discovers she actually does love a robot vacuum. Plus they answer questions from listeners about sharing your life on the internet, financial coaching, Gilmore Girls? ?free mug? energy, and how best to organize jewelry.

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It?s Chrismukkah in The OC, and these teens are being naughty and, well, mostly just naughty. Seth makes mix CDs and tries to date both Anna and Summer at the same time, Marissa shoplifts and sneaks booze into her mom?s very important party, and Ryan struggles to find that holiday spirit. Plus: mall talk, metaphors, forgotten storylines (where is Luke?), sexy Wonder Woman cosplay, and a new bad boy! 

Merry Chrismukkah from Newport Beach! 

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Kat & Dor have put together their recs and suggestions for the 2023 gifting season! From the latest in vinyl and delicious smelling candles to the cheapest stuff you can buy from fancy brands, there?s something here for everyone on your list?including yourself!

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Kate and Doree consider the times they may (or may not?) have been scammed before chatting with the Scam Goddess herself, Laci Mosley. They go deep into how to tell the difference between wellness and a scam, who and what makes a good scammer, the importance of building community, and how to best avoid being duped. 

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Secrets don?t keep friends? but do they keep drama! And, boy is there drama in episode 12 of The OC. Ryan and Luke have a school project that leads them to the discovery that Luke?s father is in a secret relationship. Kate and Doree talk about the rampant homophobia in The OC, Seth?s heart-felt and sincere apology, Julie and Jimmy?s sudden decision to sell their home, and Luke, Ryan, Marissa, and Seth bonding over their shared understanding of what it means to be a school pariah.

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Kate and Doree discuss Paula?s Choice prods they love and answer listener questions about wardrobe apps, walking pads, and Vaseline as a makeup remover. Plus: a Pete Davidson discussion!

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Kate takes us to the sea with the lore, history, and ingredients behind Creme De La Mer, the iconic and exorbitantly expensive face cream. Created by a scientist in the 1960s to heal injuries sustained in a laboratory explosion, the story of Creme de la Mer involves fermented sea kelp, gurgling sounds played for months to enhance the product, and a psychic hired by Estee Lauder to commune with its dead founder. Plus, we dig into the comparison with ?German Nivea? ? is it really the same thing as Creme de la Mer, for hundreds of dollars less? 

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Kate and Doree discuss gratitude (and how to find it). Then they?re joined by writer and pop culture expert, Lindsey Weber, co-host of the Who Weekly podcast! They discuss current celebrity culture, her favorite whos and thems to follow, celebrity skincare and makeup products she?s tried, and her idea of the perfect amount of famous. 

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